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Christina

Interesting perspective. I don't know where you live, though, but honestly, I think you're just wrong to say that "the pressure is starting to go the other way." I haven't seen any evidence of that, but you know what? If it does start to happen that there's "pressure" on women to nurse to a natural term, then I would fully support it.

Elisa | blissfulE

Rather than supporting your claim that breastmilk is no longer beneficial after a certain point, it simply seems that there are too few studies of breastfed toddlers.

Dr Sarah

Thanks for commenting, you two! Trying to type a very quick reply before having to go get the kids ready:

Christina: The pressure has mostly been in attachment parenting/lactivist circles, where I have seen several women who are struggling with continued nursing or with a decision over whether or not to wean and who are clearly influenced in their choices by the misinformation they've been receiving about the supposed evidence for benefits of breastfeeding. I also see some people coming out with terms like 'full-term nursing', with the obvious implication (sometimes flat-out stated) that nursing for less than the 'correct' length of time is somehow 'premature' or inadequate. (Now there's a nice little slap in the face for women who've struggled to breastfeed through earlier months...)

What I would be very interested in hearing is your justification for your statement that you would support pressure on women to nurse for longer. Given the lack of any good evidence of benefit, which I've detailed above, why would you support a situation where women are feeling pressured to do something that they do not feel comfortable or OK with doing?

Elisa: To clarify my position, it was not that we have absolute proof that nursing is of zero benefit after a certain age. (I thought I'd made that clear in the post, but, reading through, realised that my very last sentence did sound as though I thought that, and I have now edited it accordingly.)
My position is a) that we have no evidence that it is, and b) it is not acceptable to be misinforming women by misrepresenting studies to them and claiming we have evidence that does not, in fact, exist. I believe I've justified the first statement adequately, though I'm happy to respond to any other points anyone would like me to; with regard to the second, I sincerely hope that that's something that everyone reading can agree on.

Ruth

Excellent post. I'm all for breastfeeding, but there is little more tedious than the sanctimonious garbage people spout about it. It's great to see the evidence assessed objectively rather than used to put forward a particular agenda.

Heidi RN

Wow, I just found a new favorite blog. Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. I am all for women breastfeeding as long as they or their kiddos want, but not for making claims about evidence that isn't there.

Rachelle

I was just wondering if you have read anything from Kathy Dettwyler? http://www.kathydettwyler.org/dettwyler.html

Dr Sarah

Rachelle - I sure have! Would be delighted to write a post about her work if anyone is interested. Any essays of hers in particular that you wanted me to respond to?

Ruth, Heidi - Thanks!

Amy

This seems like a good place to get real information about breastfeeding while pregnant. I tend to think (no evidence, just logically) that it could be potentially detrimental to the growing embryo/fetus/baby. Isn't that why pregnant breast-feeding mothers lose their milk after about the first trimester? Because all nutrients and fat is needed for the new baby? I have seen the 'information' on kellymom, but am not satisfied. I am asking for information because I genuinely love nursing my 8 month old. I want to have kids 2-3 years apart, but really want to nurse him at least 18-24 months. Could you direct me to any information on this? Does anyone feel this way? Because every time I ask in these circles, moms are very quick to say "it is completely healthy for the new baby" -- well, probably, but where is the evidence. (Besides that all around the world, mothers do it all the times.) Thank you and blessings.

Granny C

Thanks for this monumental post. A really thorough and helpful guide. Huge amount of effort that I am sure will be appreciated by many.

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Zoie @ TouchstoneZ

I appreciate the work you put in to researching this post

Nikki

Your post is quite impressive and stands out from the rest of the Carnival. I like that you present all your ideas objectively and with a research base. You are gifted in both presenting the facts and talking about them in a way that isn't too scientific in order for the rest of the (non-scientific) world to understand.

And, I agree with you that we don't need to impose another "should" on the parenting world. We, mothers, have too many conventions and constraints already. If the science is not there to support breastfeeding past a certain point, then we shouldn't pretend it is.

As for me, I'm holding onto my breastfeeding days as long as I can (going on a year next week), but I do not judge anyone that weaned well before me.

Thank you for the thoughtful, thought-provoking, unique, and carefully researched post!

Dr Sarah

Zoie and Nikki - Thanks! Kind words greatly appreciated.

Miami eye doctors

Breast milk is known to be the perfect way to feed your child, it has the proper components that contribute on your child immunity and health, so is important to feed the child as much as you can. Me for example I nurse my little boy for about a year and then he stopped, he doesn't want anymore although I wished to keep nursing him, maybe his organism knows better when is enough.

Thecrunchylion.blogspot.com

While very well researched and composed, I don't believe you mention that babies/toddlers under TWO years old require a mammal's milk for optimal nutrition and early brain development. Just a thought.

Dr Sarah

The Crunchy Lion: I didn't mention it because I don't see any evidence that it's the case. Milk is a useful source of nutrition because it does have quite a wide range of different nutrients in it, but there are no known ingredients that occur only in milk and not in other foods. A toddler who is happy to eat a wide range of foods (yes, such creatures do exist! I had one!) is going to get all the nutrients she needs whether or not she drinks milk. And the studies I mentioned on IQ, showing a levelling off of the benefits after about nine months or so of nursing, indicate that it doesn't make a particular difference to brain development, either. Children (like adults) require particular *nutrients*, but they have plenty of choice about where they get those nutrients from.

FearlessFormulaFeeder

You are incredible, and I seriously worship this blog. Thanks for this funny, astute and amazingly well-researched post.

AP organic mom Katy

I identify with the Attachment Parenting style & am first to share with others that families need to do what works best for them. I am personally choosing to have my 20 month old son to wean himself when he is ready & it is a choice. I, too, have been researching toddler nursing studies and will share what I find. I just found one regarding the social aspect of how many nursing mothers feel ostracized by their choice to continue nursing which I feel often. We should be respected for our decision to nurse or not & for the length of time, regardless. http://jhl.sagepub.com/content/11/3/179.abstract I also have a website that sells natural/organic nursing tops, wraps, teething toys etc. Our Mission is to help mothers feel more empowered, confident, and lovingly connected with their children. Our vision is to create a space where mothers feel supported and welcomed into motherhood; a space where their voices are heard, their needs fulfilled, and their instincts validated. I even have a blog & want to mention your blog in my upcoming post. I look forward to sharing more. http://www.milkmommymilk.com/blog.asp

Lisa Lactivist

There is a very good book called ‘Breastfeeding Older Children’ which is fully substantiated with links to research.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Breastfeeding-Older-Children-Ann-Sinnott/dp/1853439398

And just about to be published - Psychologist Darcia Narvaez at University of Notre Dame launched her research results Sept/Oct 2010 and recommends a range of parenting practices, including breastfeeding for 5 years
http://al.nd.edu/news/16831-research-shows-child-rearing-practices-of-distant-ancestors-foster-morality-compassion-in-kids/

Though, as you say 'You're welcome to believe what you like'
Lisa
www.lactivist.co.uk

Dr. Stphen Doyne Phd

I think one of the greatest modern disservices to mothers today is the censorship of breastfeeding photos on Facebook. This is similar to the insistence of some that nursing mothers go into a bathroom (a bathroom?!) to feed their child.

Who eats in the bathroom, especially a public bathroom?

Breastfeeding is beautiful, bonding, natural, healthy for child and mother, and to be encouraged. It's very discouraging to have ignorance and repression working so hard to stop something so important.

But you all already know that, don't you?

RN IBCLC MPH mama

your post has a strong focus on picking apart what some lactivists cite as evidence promoting nursing to self-weaning. as a health care professional with a research background, i agree with your methodology, and agree that there is not enough high-quality research on this topic.

you also advocate that moms should opt to wean at whatever age they find appropriate, and not feel pressured to wean earlier or later, because there is little/no evidence that nursing longer than one year is helpful to mom or child. and you point out that there is no evidence to show that nursing to self-weaning harms a child in any way, which is true.

however, the main issue i have is that you don't seem to start from assumption that breastfeeding is normal/baseline for human babies, toddlers and young children - that it's how we're biologically designed. you're probably read the work of anthropologist kathy dettwyler by now, but here's a link to a summary of her work just in case: http://www.kathydettwyler.org/detwean.html

so instead of asking whether nursing for X length of time confers physical and/or psychological "benefits," it makes more sense to assume that nursing to self-weaning is what's normal for humans physically and psychologically. if/when studies are conducted on the topic, those studies should look at "extended" nursing as normal and expected, and investigate whether there are increased/decreased risks of health conditions, adverse attachment issues, etc when babies are weaned before they indicate readiness. nursing to self-weaning is what's baseline.

i understand that you feel that nursing to self-weaning is more important in developing countries than in developed countries. however, your perspective is an unproven hypothesis, just as i have the unproven hypothesis that nursing to self-weaning is still important in developed countries even if it's more important in developing countries.

similarly, your post includes a hypothesis about associating sweets with tantrums (which i find fascinating but disagree with for a few reasons). however, we would need evidence to prove this idea, as you mentioned. since reading your post, i have come up with a few hypotheses of my own about why your idea may not be true.

Crys in OKC

My baby turns one year old tomorrow and I am proud that I have been able to breastfeed for this long. However, with work getting in the way of my pumping, my supply is now dwindling. After reading your post I felt relieved and comforted. I have often felt that pressure to continue breastfeeding beyond 1 yr and that if I didn't I'd be a bad mother.

Honestly, I don't think breastfeeding beyond 1-2yrs will have any effect on the child's social/psychological behavior. It depends on how you raise and educate your child. I know a guy that was breastfed until he was five years old and he was an incorrigible womanizer, drug and alcohol abuser, until he got married to a controlling woman. What does that mean? People need to take responsibility of how a person develops by raising them properly. They won't magically become a good, responsible and respectable person because they ate or drank something when they were babies.

And as for the bonding...yes, I am sure breastfeeding helps, but it's not the end-all way to bond with your child. My two cents.

Avery Gilbert

You are arguing that there is a lot of misinformation related to breastfeeding toddlers that is being shared widely on the web. Is there a reason you chose to illustrate your negative points exclusively with links to KellyMom.com? I would think that if what you are saying is true then you would have illustrated that point using multiple examples across multiple websites. As it is all I see that you have issues with the information presented on one website.

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